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Apr 21, 12 RE: survey scans to come eventually///ramblings Gary Pfeifer

   Don't see a name attached to this so I don't know who am I addressing. :)  Thank
you for your interest in ARSA and generosity in being willing to share with us your
extensive survey collection!

  To answer a few of your questions:

  If you wish to actually type up the surveys and enter them into ARSA, you will
need to contact Tim Warden ( and he will set you up to do so
and can probably send along some instructions.

  If you wish merely to contribute the survey scans, you can send them to myself or
Tim and we'll get them entered.  Survey scans can be in .jpg, .gif, or .png format. 
The maximum file size is 500 kb.

  I am glad you recognized in advance potential problems and additional work effort
that would be involved in adding some of the very obscure survey like C&W's from the
50's, surveys from Rhodesia, etc.  I would STRONGLY suggest that if you become
active in contributing to ARSA to PLEASE concentrate on Top 40 and rock surveys at
this time.  There will need to be further discussion as to how to handle those
oddball surveys or even whether they should be included here.  There are some
French surveys that I have from Canada that I have never added here due to the
problems they would cause.  Hope you understand.
  Thank you again for your interest and most generous offer.

Apr 21, 12 survey scans to come eventually///ramblings 0
Hi Jim and all, my ISP has finally told me that they may soon be running fiber-optic
out my way (in the country).  I've been waiting for this for years.  At that point,
I may finally consider sending in scans of a large quantity of surveys.  I have
always been deterred from submitting scans, because they take so long to upload to
the internet with the slowish bit rate I still have here.  I have a huge number of
surveys, and a mere sixteen months from now I will be the first person IN WORLD
HISTORY to have collected surveys **actively** for a half century.  I know of one
guy who has collected longer than I have (starting in 1961), but he has been almost
entirely inactive for 16 or 17 years now.

I have acquired many surveys which are otherwise entirely unknown to the hobby, and
some of it has required persistent, deep, and rather frustrating amounts of digging.
 My focus has always been on surveys before 1960, though I collect them from years
all the way to the end.

I don't know how soon I may start sending in scans.  I hope it's possible before
year's end, though I don't have any idea whether that's possible.  "Soon" can mean
anything between next week, and next year, for all I know.

Two of my most prized additions of late are KPOJ Portland OR from 1957, and
CMBC-690 Havana CUBA from 1958 - both of these found on ebay, and both of them
contained within listings which were incredibly inept and only found via sheer dumb
luck.  Both are worthy of their own little tales.

In December, somebody listed a homemade Elvis Presley scrapbook, which was put
together by a school girl in the Fifties.  Included in his 28 or 30 PHOTOS from the
scrapbook were articles, ticket stubs, an autographed napkin, even some of her
report cards...BUT NOT the surveys from KPOJ and KXL.  (Of the two, KPOJ was by far
the more-wanted one.)  I only found this because one of my ebay searches included
KPOJ specifically - I have THREE call letters specified searches (5 stations each,
for 15 of my most wanted surveys).  I only found it because the seller description
said something like "KPOJ and KXL song listings" and my [KPOJ +4] search caught it.
 His photos included ALMOST EVERYTHING in the scrapbook - other than not including
the KPOJ and KXL photos, I'm not even sure that he failed to photograph ANYTHING
else.  Clearly he considered these surveys to be something even worse than
junk...yes even of less interest than REPORT CARDS.

The CUBA thing was even more inept than the KPOJ listing, if that's at all
possible.  I contacted the seller earlier this year, after noticing that he had a
LOT of original Cuban newspapers, and asking him PLEASE to look out for any radio
station surveys from Cuba from before Castro.  I told him that I would offer at
least $1,000 - and, even more likely $2,000 - for ANY original Cuban survey.  So
what happens about three or four weeks later?  He lists a Cuban survey FOR WHAT IT
IS, and lists it so entirely ineptly that only ONE of my 46 survey-related searches
disclosed it.  In fact it was the "hit list" search I have, which is usually the
most unproductive of ALL my 46 searches.  Even worse, he had it on only a THREE DAY
listing.  I could have so easily missed it, because sometimes I don't get to my
ebays for three days.  Of course I bid on it (I actually think I put down something
ridiculous like $8,000)...and I won it for $26.  This guy could have had $2,000
instead, and I almost missed it entirely because of the totally inept way it was
listed.  Not that I'm complaining, mind y'all, but that was too close for comfort.

AT LEAST he didn't put it up as a BUY IT NOW.  That method is the bane of my ebay
existence.  I'm not aware of anything that I've missed because it was BUY IT NOW,
but it would be very easy for that to cause me to miss something, and the surveys I
need are most likely to be listed by some backwoods seller who only happens to have
some weird survey on hand unlike the other 99.9% of the paper he deals with.

As far as what I'm trying to accomplish with my collecting goals, I consider the
Cuban survey (with traditional Cuba music, not rock and roll) to very possibly be
the best find of my lifetime.

OK, BACK TO THE SCANS TOPIC: Is there a tutorial anywhere about the limitations on
file size and such, and what kind of dpi resolution I should use, etc.?  Is there
an ARSA form that I fill out for each, or any particular place where I send the
scan, etc.?  Is there a type of document it's best to "save as"?  (.jpg and .pdf
and other options exist, I think.)  If/when I'm able to start doing this, I want to
do it right, to cause the fewest problems and incompatibilities as possible.

I'm also thinking that it might be worthwhile having a separate survey section for
surveys which are too complex and/or cumbersome to cross-index all the music on
them into the ARSA database, is that a thought?  I'm thinking, for instance, of old
C&W surveys, or if I decide to scan KPOK 
Scottsdale AZ (from 1958, a Top 25 Easy Listening albums survey!!), or perhaps a
Dominican Republic or Rhodesia survey, etc.  (Yes, I have stuff like this.)  ARSA
members aren't likely to care all that much if a song done by a merengue group from
Santiago de Los Caballeros, D. R. is indexed or not.  I started reading a little
into the Chart Chat archives and I noticed a similar issue coming up about modern
Canadian surveys - if there was a section of stuff not being indexed it would still
allow the surveys to be posted, but without causing loads of grief on those who do
the background documentation. 

Apr 10, 12 KFRC San Francisco RE: 1979-08-24 / KFRC ( San Francisco, California ) ARSA Jim
You're 100% right, Paul. The MD at my college station ended every one of his shows
with "Breakfast In America" in 1979, and it was played everywhere on the AOR side
back then. That entire LP had to be one of the 3-4 strongest start-to-finish
efforts in music history. A&M should've released at least 2 more singles from it,
but pre-"Thriller", three 45s seemed to be as deep as the labels would go, per LP.
(FYI, I was always partial to "Just Another Nervous Wreck"!) I've just added in a
new, 1979 "LP cut" entry for "Breakfast....", and its lone current Top 40 chart
appearance is now properly reflected. I love adding stuff like this into the ARSA
db, Paul, as I believe such details to be of particular interest to those who use
the site. Gracias, mi amigo!      -Jim 
Apr 10, 12 KFRC San Francisco 1979-08-24 / KFRC ( San Francisco, California ) Paul H.
"Breakfast In America" by Supertramp (listed as a "pick hit" on this survey) is the
studio version NOT the live version from 1980.  I heard the studio version on the
radio so often in the late summer/early fall of 1979, that I thought for sure it
would be the 3rd single from the album (instead they released "Take The Long Way
Apr 10, 12 WKCI New Haven RE2: 1984-00-00 / WKCI ( New Haven, Connecticut ) Paul H.
Hey Jim, it appears that the "I'm So Excited" entry on this chart has migrated back
with the 1982 mix.  If it can't be fixed at this time, no big deal, just thought
I'd give you the "heads up"!
Apr 5, 12 WKCI New Haven 1984-00-00 / WKCI ( New Haven, Connecticut ) Paul H.
"I'm So Excited" by The Pointer Sisters (#96 on this chart) is coming out under the
1982 mix instead of with the others from 1984, where it belongs.
Mar 25, 12 RE3: CBC surveys ARSA Jim
I agree a million percent with Gary.....     -Jim
Mar 25, 12 RE2: CBC surveys K.A. Scott
Yup, I understand this POV, Gary!  However, the CBC is the national radio network,
and the top 20s come from their weekly countdown shows. There's no real equivalent
to this in the US -- this is a Canada-wide 'station' compiling the chart.  In this
sense, it's very unlike Billboard or Cashbox, or the Canadian RPM charts.

Just thought I'd put it out there, and see what the consensus is! 

Mar 25, 12 RE: CBC surveys Gary Pfeifer

   Tim would be the one to make a decision on this but for what it's worth, I've
always avoided adding US national surveys such as Billboard, Cashbox and American
Top 40.
Mar 25, 12 CBC surveys K.A. Scott
Hi all...

  I'm in possession of some CBC top 20 surveys from the early 80s.  CBC is Canada's
national public network -- these are therefore national surveys, not local surveys
attached to any one radio station.  Do you think they would fit in with the site,
and if so, what would the best way to enter them be?
Mar 25, 12 KXOA Sacramento RE3: 1962-03-02 / KXOA ( Sacramento, California) Gary Pfeifer
  It appears I just spaced out on this one and neglected to add the songs shown on
the back side of the survey.  Maybe I got interrupted and forget to get back to
them.  In any event, I'm sorry for the oversight and many thanks to ARSA Jim for
adding the songs and A.R. Paine for bringing this to our attention.
Mar 24, 12 KXOA Sacramento RE2: 1962-03-02 / KXOA ( Sacramento, California) ARSA Jim
.....*or*, our buddy Gary didn't originally flip the survey over to notice that
there were also #s 41 - 62 to add in. Perhaps A.R. was innocently browsing recently
added surveys, noticed the oversight, and just fixed it for Gary by adding in the 22
"other side of the survey" songs for him. That would then cause "Humorous Dian" to
now appear for the first time. Would've been a shame for such a unique entry to not
be represented at all in our db. On second thought, that surely must have been what
happened. Peace!       -Jim     
Mar 24, 12 KXOA Sacramento RE: 1962-03-02 / KXOA ( Sacramento, California ) ARSA Jim
Nice catch, A.R.! To my knowledge, Gary has always entered in all of his many ARSA
surveys via pre-formatted text, as opposed to the "hand-keying" method many of us
use. As a result, his new-to-the-db songs always get a "magic bullet" immediately;
I then go in and add the missing label/catalog # info after the fact - very easy
for me to do. So I don't know how that "Humorous Dian" 45 snuck through, with no
"magic bullet" assigned. All I can think of is that Gary may have entered in that
particular survey in an atypical way (for him). FYI, that "Dickie Goodman-themed,
but done by a little girl" song is on YouTube, and is worth a listen. Many thanks,
sir!      -Jim
Mar 24, 12 KXOA Sacramento 1962-03-02 / KXOA ( Sacramento, California ) A.R. Paine
#61 on this survey, "Interview With Mr. K", needs to be added to the database. 
Mar 24, 12 CKOC Hamilton 1987-03-25 / CKOC ( Hamilton, Ontario ) K.A. Scott
Hi Jim...

  Note that the actual title of Gowan's 1987 hit is "Moonlight Desires", not
"Moonlight Desire" as it currently appears in the database.

  Thanks as always!
Mar 23, 12 RE: 1969 WILK survey A.R. Paine
Thanks, Jim.  The WILK surveys are great for their mix of familiar songs, obscure
bubblegum, lesser-known singles by mainstream rock groups, and regional hits.  I'll
be adding a few more WILK charts in the coming weeks...
Mar 21, 12 KMEN San Bernardino RE2: 1963-06-28 / KMEN ( San Bernardino, California ) Lee Tucker
ARSA Jim:  Glad to help!
Mar 21, 12 KMEN San Bernardino RE: 1963-06-28 / KMEN ( San Bernardino, California ) ARSA Jim
Thanks, Lee. It was excellent that you alerted me about that "no magic bullet"
Cannonball Adderley LP, where you went back to an old survey and had just added in.
Unlike the 45s, I never would've had any idea it needed to be addressed my end
without your note - thanks! -Jim 
Mar 21, 12 KMEN San Bernardino 1963-06-28 / KMEN ( San Bernardino, California ) Lee Tucker
ARSA Jim: When I initially keyed this survey in, I overlooked the fact that KMEN
began adding K/MENTIONING ALBUMS with this survey.  Edited it today and the
Cannonball Adderley album did not receive the ARSA Magic Bullet, nor did some of
the "Golden Goodies" albums on the July 5 survey  -  Lee
Mar 20, 12 Brinsley Schwarz K.A. Scott
Hi Jim...

  Just a quick note -- the correct spelling of the group is Brinsley Schwarz, not
(as the database currently has it) "Schwartz".  Thanks, as always, for all your
hard work!


- Kenn.