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Jan 27, 16 Radio Show Paul H.
A few months ago, I had the pleasure of being an in-studio guest on Ron Gerber's
excellent "Crap From The Past" radio show.  There was lots of chart-nerd/radio geek
discussion that you guys may enjoy.

If you're interested and have 90 minutes to kill (perhaps while you're entering
surveys), the link is here:
Jan 26, 16 Should Have Checked The Math Ted Hammond
60000/2000=30 Surveys Average per station. But I think the average is driven up by
relatively few stations near the top.
Jan 26, 16 Should Have Checked The Math Ted Hammond
60000/2000=30 Surveys Average per station. But I think the average is driven up by
relatively few stations near the top.
Jan 26, 16 60000 Surveys! Ted Hammond
I remember the first time I found this website. There were few surveys for smaller
stations, and I have to admit that I never thought it would be this big, based on
similar sites other than the ones with major stations. How many surveys are still
out there depends on a lot of things, like the number of surveys originally
printed, and how many radio geeks were able to save them from overzealous people
who wanted to throw them out. I still think about the ones I have had but have been
removed, back in the 1960s. But just remember, the average number of surveys per
station is around 60000/2000 or 15. And even if you have one or a dozen surveys, it
may be the largest existing collection for that station. So don't feel bad, just
keep trying to find people who saved them. Garage Band members will keep a local
survey that their song appeared on forever. You will notice that if you look at
smaller station collections. The fact that GO Magazines from many stations took up
so much space and were not saved is just sad. And of course, it was an effort to
cut them out. One I found appeared to be from a Garage Band member. If you know any
of those members, see if they might have any surveys, GO Magazine or published
Jan 26, 16 60,000! K.A. Scott
Another ARSA milestone reached!  I always find it interesting to see how quickly
we're growing these days, so here's the updated tote board, with the time elapsed
between each milestone:

SURVEY 1  September 12, 2003
SURVEY 10,000  June 2, 2009 (5 years, 8 months, 21 days)
SURVEY 20,000  September 9, 2011 (2 years, 3 months, 7 days)
SURVEY 30,000  January 31, 2013 (1 year, 4 months, 23 days)
SURVEY 40,000  July 15, 2014 (1 year, 5 months, 15 days)
SURVEY 50,000  March 4, 2015 (7 months, 18 days)
SURVEY 60,000  January 26, 2016 (10 months, 22 days)

Thanks to all our contributors for making this happen, especially our near-daily
regulars over the span of the last 10,000:  Lee, Paul, Geno, Rick, and of course,

Get your bets in for the day we'll be hitting 70,000 -- an autographed cigar butt
goes to the person with the closest guess!
Jan 26, 16 60,000! Gary Pfeifer
 Wow!  Another milestone reached with no end in site!  We now have surveys from six
of the seven continents - Antarctica continues to elude us :).   Again, big THANK
YOU'S  to Tim, Kenn, and all those who so graciously support ARSA by providing
and/or entering surveys!  This website would be nothing without all of you! All
your efforts are most appreciated.  Now, onward to 70,000!! 
Jan 26, 16 WLS Chicago RE: 1975-00-00 / WLS ( Chicago, Illinois ) Lee Tucker
And the beat goes on!  I'd also like to add my congratulations to the magnificent
ARSA website on the achievement of another significant milestone.  Onward to
Jan 26, 16 WLS Chicago 1975-00-00 / WLS ( Chicago, Illinois ) Geno Rice
Congratulations on the 60,000th survey entered. Way to go!
Jan 23, 16 Thanks, Paul! K.A. Scott
Got 'em both, Paul, along with the other new-to-ARSA 1993 singles listed on the
charts you entered.  Keep 'em coming -- these are great!


- Kenn.
Jan 23, 16 Right Here/Human Nature - SWV Paul H.
Kenn, this song is NOT a two-sided hit.  In late 1992, SWV released "Right Here" and
it barely dented the Hot 100.  In July, they released a remix which heavily sampled
"Human Nature" by Michael Jackson.  This is the version that became a smash hit as
"Right Here/Human Nature" and is shown on the surveys from the summer of 1993-on.
Jan 23, 16 Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team Paul H.
Kenn, this song is in the database with a slight should be Whoomp (with 2
"o"s) not Whomp.  Thanks!
Jan 22, 16 KYNO Fresno RE: 1970-07-01 / KYNO ( Fresno, California ) Gary Pfeifer
The three Hitbound songs have been added!
Jan 22, 16 KYNO Fresno 1970-07-01 / KYNO ( Fresno, California ) Geno Rice
Hi Tim, Gary, and Kenn,

Could you please add these 3 hitbounds to the 7/1/70 KYNO chart? Thanks.

Mungo Jerry - In The Summertime
Youngbloods - Darkness Darkness
Blood, Sweat & Tears - Lucretia Mac Evil
Jan 21, 16 RE7: Frank W. Hoffmann Gary Pfeifer
 Very interesting indeed! The flood of very negative reviews certainly got his
attention.  I appreciate he is acknowledging his sources in his response but such
an acknowledgement within the books themselves would be even  better.
Jan 21, 16 RE6: Frank W. Hoffmann Lee Tucker

Looks like all of our reviews might have gotten Mr. Hoffman's attention! Check out
the new description now found on e-bay for his WHB book:

"WHB was the leading Top 40 AM radio outlet in the Kansas City market during the
1960s. This volume reproduces the station's pop music surveys from the middle of
that decade. Also includes a thumbnail historical sketch of the station. Like the
other radio charts titles, my goal was to provide a convenient chronological
compilation of weekly surveys with corrections of the considerable errors found in
both the original sources and in translation to online sites. These radio charts 
which exist in the public domain  can be found in a multitude of sources,
including original published sheets distributed via retail outlets, mail inquiries,
etc., notation of on-air broadcasts, back issues of area newspapers (where stations
are located) and music trade periodicals, specialized reference books, and websites
interested in historical documentation, most notably, Oldiesloon, musicradio77, and
ARSA. I employed multiple sources in the compilation of each radio chart volume in
order to provide the most accurate data possible."

His books are still a major rip off but at least he acknowledges that the charts
exist in public domain and ARSA and other websites/sources are now at least
somewhat acknowledged in his description of this book, although he fails to point
out that the charts are free at these websites/sources.  
Jan 19, 16 RE: WABQ of 65/04/03 lists Geno Rice
Correction made. Thanks for the catch, Joel.
Jan 19, 16 WABQ of 65/04/03 lists "Nowhere to Run" twice Joel Wagoner
Hello!  I see "Nowhere to Run" by Martha and the Vandellas listed at #9 and #10 in
the chart data of WABQ's survey of April 3, 1965.  It appears that #10 should be
"When I'm Gone" by Brenda Holloway.

Hope that the New Year is treating everyone well.

Jan 10, 16 RE3: Heaven - Bryan Adams K.A. Scott
A little more research shows that, despite some sites claiming a Feb 1984 release
for "Heaven" as a single in Canada, this doesn't actually seem to be the case.  It
looks like the song picked up album-track-only airplay in 1984.

Gary made the adjustments yesterday so that all the 1984 entries are now grouped
together.  We're going to try keeping these 84/85 listings separate...but please
keep an eye on 'em to see if the entries get mixed up.  They shouldn't, but as
you're inputting early '85 surveys almost daily (and thanks so much for that!),
we'd appreciate it if you could let us know if there are further problems1


- Kenn.      
Jan 10, 16 RE2: Heaven - Bryan Adams Paul H.
Kenn, I don't know about Canada, but the US radio stations were playing the song in
early 1984 off the soundtrack to the movie "A Night In Heaven".  In fact, the song
made it all the way to the Top 10 on the US Rock Tracks charts at that time.  That
said, most radio listeners here in the US didn't hear the song until 1985, when it
was released as the third single off his "Reckless" album and went all the way to
#1 on the Hot 100.  I think it's kinda cool to see them separated, but I'll leave
it up to you guys.
Jan 9, 16 RE: Heaven - Bryan Adams K.A. Scott
Hmmm...the real issue here is that "Heaven" came out as a Canadian single a full
year before it did in the US.  Same label and catalogue number; the US just lagged
behind.  (Though obviously some US stations were grabbing the Canadian single and
playing it anyway!)

Thia looks to me as if these two entries should be merged into one.  Gary, do you